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== Explosive Crashes ==
== Explosive Crashes ==


Notes on the work on a set of criteria for finding explosive crash reports - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=629049 bug 629049] is the tracker bug, [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=629062 bug 629062] is detection. The [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Socorro:PRD_2.x#New_.2F_explosive_.2F_critical_crash_tracking PRD doc] has some surrounding info, but no criteria yet.
Moved to https://wiki.mozilla.org/CrashKill/Plan/Explosive
 
=== Personal Notes ===
 
* Sharp/significant increase at certain wall-clock time across versions
* Sharp/significant increase at certain build ID (date?) on single version/series (possibly ignoring everything in version string starting with first letter if the version ends in "pre", to have e.g. 5.0a3pre->5.0b1pre or 4.0b11pre->4.0b12pre not disturb the analysis)
* Ignore (suspected) duplicates
* Frequency weighted by ADU more important than bare count (from something chofmann has said)
* I'm not fond of topcrash rank comparisons, as 20 crashes with similar frequency changing place looks overvalued there, while e.g. #1 having 10,000 crashes and #3 having 500 fully mask #2 exploding from 600 to 5,000 in a day.
 
=== Criteria Proposal ===
 
This is a quite rough proposal right now.
 
# Get two sets of numbers per signature:
#* non-duplicate crashes occurred per day and total ADU for the last 10 days
#* non-duplicate crashes and ADU per combination of version series (see personal notes) and date of build ID, for the last 10 available build ID dates in the version series
# For each set, calculate (if there are at least 4 values in the set):
#* average crashes per ADU over 7 values before recent value ("base")
#* average ADU over those values ("avgADU")
#* distance of that average to the highest value in set ("dist"), clamped to a minimum of (50 crashes/avgADU)
#* recent value per ADU ("data")
#* '''(total|version)_explosiveness_1''' = (data-base)/dist
# For each set, calculate (if there are at least 6 values in the set):
#* average crashes per ADU over 7 values before recent 3 values ("base")
#* average ADU over those values ("avgADU")
#* standard deviation of that average ("dist"), clamped to a minimum of (20 crashes/avgADU)
#* average of recent 3 values per ADU ("data")
#* '''(total|version)_explosiveness_3''' = (data-base)/dist
# Mark as explosive in UI if '''*_explosiveness_1 > 3''' or '''*_explosiveness_3 > 2'''.
 
==== Problems with this proposal ====
* Completely arbitrary numbers for explosiveness marking limits and "dist"-clamping, need to see if they catch all explosives and/or catch too much.
* If there's no large enough set of numbers to work with, there's no useful explosiveness.
* It's unclear if the version-based numbers give really useful additional value, they also create a multitude of explosiveness numbers to store (2 per version series).
* There might be an argument for only calculating the second (*_explosiveness_3) measure, as it's fine-grained enough to catch highly explosive crashes on the first day of explosion.
 
==== Upsides of this proposal ====
* Recognizes that dupes and ADU changes can make base values fluctuate and gets rid of those problems.
* The clamping of "dist" doesn't just prohibit divisions by zero, but also deals potential skew due to tiny fluctuations in small numbers.
* Having explosiveness numbers available to UI enables flexibility in marking, sorting and changing limits.
 
==== Examples ====
* Bug 554660 (see below) has an interesting example of numbers to look at for this: totals of 54, 72, 86, 83, 67, 46, 47, 123, 131 for 2010-03-08 through 2010-03-16. Here's a look at how this algorithm does, ignoring ADU, which are not given there, and therefore also the clamping:
** On 2010-03-15, total_explosiveness_1 would have been 2.7, not yet triggering (?), and total_explosiveness_3 would have been slightly negative, also not triggering.
** On 2010-03-16, total_explosiveness_1 would have been 1.2, not triggering, but total_explosiveness_3 would have been 2.2, triggering the warning.
** On later days, should have triggered easily on both values, even with clamping of "dist".
 
A larger number of examples, including dist clamping (but no ADU) is available as an [[Media:Explosive_calc.ods‎|ODF spreadsheet]] ([[Media:Explosive_calc.pdf‎|PDF version]])
 
=== User Comments ===
 
From https://wiki.mozilla.org/Socorro:PRD_Interviews
 
damon:
  * (initial) growth of more than 25 positions in the ranking
  * upwards change in rank and no related bugzilla id
  * time since startup < 1 minute
  * highlight these crashes in red or something
 
From https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525316
 
morgamic:
  My suggestion for a delta to watch is an increase in crash frequency of more
  than 50-75% and new crashes in the top 20 overall signatures by version.
 
=== Data From Previous Explosive Crash Bugs ===
 
Used the [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr;query_format=advanced;status_whiteboard=explos explosive bug query] to find those, trying to pull info out on how those were explosive.
 
* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=503946
** #16 tc (2-week) for 3.6 on 2010-01-26, #2 in 1-day, #3 in 3-day
** crash numbers with that signature: 2010-01-24 145 (days before similar), 2010-01-25 1950, 2010-01-26 11731
** percentage of total crashes on 2010-01-25 was 4 times as high on 3.6 as on 3.5
* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=528798
** Rise from 7-18 null signature crashes with comments to >100 (with some days of 30s or 50s) within a week or less after the 3.5.5 release.
** Increase in total null-signature crashes from <5000 to >6000 within 2-3 days
* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=530074
** crashes with that signature jumped from 45-65 to 570 and higher within 3 days
* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=536974
** jumped up 41 ranks in top crasher analysis tp #15 on 3.6b5 in 3 days
** two signatures, both from <30 total crashes per day to >300 within a week
* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=538687
** uptick from 45-60 (2009-12-16 to 2010-01-02, with some single-day spikes above) to multiple consecutive days with 80-100 (2010-01-03 to -07) total crashes per day
** percentage of total crashes on 3.6 is about a factor 50-100 higher than on 3.5
** up to 416 crashes on 2010-03-10, 600-900 on 2010-03-12 to -14, >1600 on 2010-03-15, >1000 until -19
** #45 topcrash in 3.6b5 (2010-01-08), #8 in early 3.6.2 top crash data (2010-03-23)
* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=538998
** From 0 to >100 in two days, from 94-115 to >3700 in one day
** #10 tc in early 3.6rc1 reports
** from 3-12 total crashes per hour to 100-600 with a sharp cutoff hour
* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=543646
** from 0 to >1000 crashes in two days, staying there at least 3 days
* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546632
** new crash in top 30 tc on 3.6
** from 0 to >100 in a day, from 260 to >1000 in 7 days
** roughly factor 5 between 3.6 and other versions in percentage of total crashes
* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547210
** 0 to >3000 in a day, stayed >1000 for 3 days at least
* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547622
** Top 50 Crash for 3.6 (+149!) Firefox 3.6 Crash Report
** started showing up around the first of November with 1-10 crashes per day, then 10-40 crashes per day in Dec, 100-150 in January, and last few days of February was running at 400-712 crashes per day
* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=553581
** +224 positions up to Top 33 Crash for 3.6
* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=554660
** from 45-90 to >100 in a day, >400 in 3 days and rising further (>600 in 6 days etc.)
* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558955
** 200-500 crashes per day in first half of April '10, up from 0-5 crashes per day in Nov '09 through early March '10
** ~5 to >100 in 3 days, somewhat back down, then ~80 to >200 in 3 days, 150-180 to >500 in 3 days
* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=570722
** from 7-18 to >600 in a day
* https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=595957
** from 30-90 to >3000 in 3 days


== Reports ==
== Reports ==

Revision as of 19:55, March 9, 2011

On a planet called Veridian III, a decisive battle was fought to prevent a future firing of a rocket into a star that would change gravitational forces and make "the nexus" crash into the planet as well as destroy the planet with a shock wave. Preventing this catastrophy made the crash of the USS Enterprise on the planet controllable as to suffer no human casualties.

In the same spirit, the project I internally dub "Veridian 3" is about dealing with crashes to make the bad ones preventable and other ones more controllable, all through prioritizing Socorro work.

Project areas

Those areas have been specified in the contract:

  • Improving Crash Data Integrity
    • Identification and Removal of Duplicate Crash reports
  • Improving Search Capabilities
  • Improving Classification and Characterization of Crash Reports and Improved Signature Generation
  • additional correlation reports to help identifying circumstances around the crash and steps to reproduce
  • Improve Trend Reports to identify and alert teams about Explosive bugs

Bugzilla Tags

Moved to http://wiki.mozilla.org/CrashKill/Plan/BugLists

Prioritization Comments From Socorro Users

<wsmwk> KaiRo: second tier needs might be bug 421119, bug 518823, bug 578376, bug 411354.  third tier: bug 527304, bug 512910, better workflow for updating skiplist)
<firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421119 min, P3, 2.1, nobody, NEW, function for socorro to compare stacks of two or more crash reports
<firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=518823 enh, --, Future, nobody, NEW, indicate bug's status for bugzilla keyword topcrash
<firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=578376 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, multiple crashes from a single person should have less weight then many crashes from different peopl
<firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411354 nor, P1, 2.0, nobody, REOP, Add ability to search by build ID
<firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=527304 enh, --, ---, nobody, REOP, provide smart analysis ala talkback
<firebot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=512910 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Make it easier to analyze crashes that share a signature
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=551669 provide graphs by crash date too
Smokey Ardisson (way behind; no bugmail - do not email) <alqahira@ardisson.org> changed:
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johnjbarton 
Of course *all* of my crashes involve Firebug. The number one question I have when I visit crash-stats site is:
How many other users who have this crash also running Firebug?
If the answer is 95%, then I better spend some time on it because no one else will. If the answer is 5%, I'm having lunch.
Jeff Muizelaar
It would be nice if it was possible to get more summary information about a crash.
For example: What build ids does this crash all occur with? What operating system versions does this all occur with? etc.
Josh Matthews
I, like Jeff, would appreciate summaries of the data available - most recent 10 unique build ids, list of unique OS versions, range of uptimes, etc.
I would also be really interested in data about spikes - seeing a graph of the number of crashes for a particular signature over time would be useful to track trends.

Explosive Crashes

Moved to https://wiki.mozilla.org/CrashKill/Plan/Explosive

Reports

Some tools and reports on crash data are currently outside the main Socorro systems: